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Old 03-02-2005, 04:41 AM   #1
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Master Smith Guide

1.Introduction
After a BS reaches the level of 99 , he/she can go to Juno to change back to high novice in order to get to Whitesmith (2nd advanced class)

2. New Skills Of Master Smith

Meltdown Requirement: Skin Tempering lv3, Hilt Binding lv1, Weapon Research lv5 and Overthrust lv3
Max Lv : 10
-Under the condition of Meltdown, the weapon and equipment of the target will has a certain rate to be damaged.When this is used on the monsters, the attack and defense of the monsters will be reduced> As the skill lv increases, the damage rate increases as well.
Skill Lv-Weapon damage %/Eqps damge %-Sp consumed- Duration- Cast Time
1 1 %/0.7% 50 15 5
2 2 %/1.4% 50 20 5
3 3 %/2.1% 60 25 6
4 4 %/2.8% 60 30 6
5 5 %/3.5% 70 35 7
6 6 %/4.2% 70 40 7
7 7 %/4.9% 80 45 8
8 8 %/5.6% 80 50 8
9 9% /6.3% 80 55 9
10 10%/7.0% 80 60 9

**as u can see enemy’s weapon is easier to damage compare to armor and don worry about the cast time… it is almost instant…..^^”

Weapon Refine Requirement: Weapon Research lv10
-chacacters will be able to refine weapon
this skill is only affected by job lv & not be affected on dex & luk attribute
this skill consume 30 sp
Skill lv- Max Lv of weapons can be refined
1 +1
2 +2
3 +3
4 +4
5 +5
6 +6
7 +7
8 +8
9 +9
10 +10
refine lvl 1 weapon <phracon>
refine lvl 2 weapon <emveretacron>
refine lvl 3,4 weapon <oridecon>

**It is like u go to the npc to refine ur weapons……only the difference is can refine any weapons (including bows) but cannot refine armors..


Cart Boost (my favourite)
Requirement: Push Cart lv5, Cart Revolution lv1, Change Cart lv1, Hilt Binding lv1
Max Lv: 1
-Under the condition of Cart Boost, the movement speed of push cart equipped increased. This skill will not be affected by value of Agi or effects of Agi Decrease skill.

Cart Termination

Type: Active [ Max 10 LV ]
Target: Single Enemy
Description: Can only be used while in Cart Boost state. Using the power of the money, you strike a single target with your cart. It uses some Zeny, and has small chance of stunning the target. The damage depends on weight taken by items inside the cart.

No casting time, or after-cast delay.
SP taken is fixed to 15.
This skill requires Merchant Mammonite LV 10, Blacksmith Hammerfall LV 5, Whitesmith Cart Boost LV 1.

Skill LV - Attack Power - Zeny Taken - Stun Chance
1 - (Weight / 15) % - 600Z - 5%
2 - (Weight / 14) % - 700Z - 10%
3 - (Weight / 13) % - 800Z - 15%
4 - (Weight / 12) % - 900Z - 20%
5 - (Weight / 11) % - 1000Z - 25%
6 - (Weight / 10) % - 1100Z - 30%
7 - (Weight / 9) % - 1200Z - 35%
8 - (Weight / % - 1300Z - 40%
9 - (Weight / 7) % - 1400Z - 45%
10 - (Weight / 6) % - 1500Z - 50%

Max Overthrust

Type: Active [ Max 5 LV ]
Target: Yourself
Description: Greately increase weapon power by using power of the Zeny. Unlike normal Overthrust, this skill only affects you. All skill levels have same 0.1% chance of weapon breaking every hit.

SP taken is fixed at 15.
Lasting time is fixed to 180 Sec.
There is no casting time / after-cast delay.
This skill requires Over Thrust LV 5.

Skill LV - Bonus Damage - Zeny Taken
1 - ??0% - 3000Z
2 - ??0% - 3500Z
3 - ??0% - 4000Z
4 - ??0% - 4500Z
5 - 100% - 5000Z

New Quest Skill
these 2 skills.....great news to players who no more jobs to add
cause these are quest skills u juz need do quest then u will
have the skill..... but these 2 looks not helpful..sigh..

> Unfair Trick
Passive Skill

Class: Blacksmith

Description: Reduces the Zeny consumed by Mammonite by 10%.

* Greed

Class: Blacksmith
SP Taken: 10

Description: When you use this skill, all items within 2 cells of the Blacksmith will straight go to his inventory. It is not possible to use this skill in Siege Mode (WoE) or in PvP mode. Do note this skill does not bypass the order of who gets an item first. EX) You cannot use this skill to snatch an item when another player has the first priority over the item dropped.

The Forgotten Skills

Coin Create
Requirement: Iron lv5, Steel lv5, Enchanted Stone lv3, Oridecon lv2
Max Lv : 3
-Create coin. Coin created will be randomly given an amount of zeny upon opened by players.

Nugget Create
Requirement: Oridecon lv3, Find Ore lv1, Weapon Research lv5
Max Lv : 3
-Create nugget. Nugget created can be sold to Npc with high price or use it to create coin.

Auto Attack System Create
Requirement: weapon Research lv10, Weapon Perfection lv3
Max Lv: 1
-Create Auto Attack System Tower. Attack power is 100-300. The maximum number of setup for this tower is 5 and all towers will attack enemy that goes into the attack range.
(Like the archering guardians in Castle. ^^”)

***Looks like these skills are deserted……

3.How to Start With ( High Novice)
Let’s get this simple…..no more long talks…..^^”

[b]Poring Island[b]
Hit poporing with a tanker
Use +9/10 main gauche with andre cards/skeleton worker cards

Rocker’s Map(prt_fild07)
Hit rockers if you are on your own
Use Red pots to heal, +9/10main gauche/any fire element weapons

4. Turning into High Merchant
After your high novice job lv is 9 go to Alberta and speak to the merchant guildman. Then you will change into High Merchant without doing any test.

**Don get a cart before u reach Push Cart lv 10, this will slow u down

Payon Cave lv1
Hit zombies, familiar and spores
Fire element weapons/any weapons with priest asperio/stick with +10 main gauche(mg)
Remember you can use Loud/Crazy Uproar +4 Str and Cart Revolution to clear mobs
Will get familiar cards

Smokie Map(pay_fild09)
Hit Smokie, Worm Tail, Spore, Snake
Ignore Sohee and Big Foot for the time unless u have tanker
Fire element weapons/+10 mg /gladius with s.worker cards
Will get smokie card and raccoon leaf to make headgear

Elder Willow Map9pay_fild07)
Hit Elder Willow, Eggyra, Willow
Ice element weapons/Gladius with andre or s.workers card
Will get many dead branch and if lucky enough eggyra card

Orc Warriors Map(gef_fild02)
Hit Orc Warriors, Smokie, Yoyo, Coco
Avoid Choco
Fire Element weapons/Gladius with andre/s.worker card (coco & yoyo is small)
Weapons with Orc Lady Cards (+30% damage to orc races)
Collect arconrn from coco to make headgear

Frilldola Map (moc_fild17)
Hode, Andre, Frilldola, Sandman
Fire Element Weapons (except Fridolla)
Ice Weapons (only for Fridolla)
Gladius + andre/s.worker cards (for all)
Will get Andre and Fridolla Card if lucky…

Sandman Map (moc_fild14)
Sandman, Magnolia, Hodes
Fire Weapons (except Magnolia)
Wind Weapons (for Magnolia)
Gladius +Andres/s.worker cards(for all)
Magnolia card, elu stone and katar of thornbush looks nice…

**Try getting accessory+Horong card cause Sandman and Hodes always clocking

Gh Prison (if u cannot stand lving in Sandman place alone)
Party with Acos, Archers
Sit at a safe place and pay a good fee to ur party member, let them do the killing on Zombie Prisoner and Injustice
Avoid Rybio
Poo Poo Hat to lessen the damage by ambush of Rybio
Get the unwanted rubbish, Prisoner Cloth, Brigan, Cyfar
Get Elu of lucky enough…
Ask party members to wear Shoes + Zombie Prisoner card to increase the exp get

Reaching job 50 will be a hard work but it really worth it…
These are the skills I get
Lv10 Mamonite
Lv10 Push Cart
Lv8 Enlage Weight
Lv10 Ds
Lv10 Overcharge
Lv1 Vending

**U can decrease the Oc/Ds/Vending to get lv10 Enlarge Weight Limit

Next, go back to Juno and talk to the Whitesmith before the Angel. U will change into
Master Smith.

5. The Begins of Master Smith Life
Congrats. Upon reaching this state.
Still at early stage, stay at Sandman map for lving. Get all the BS normal skills 1st except Maximize Power. Then get cart boost (to walk faster) and if u are a WOE fans get lv10 Meltdown. Time to change weapons to axe/mace since Ws/Bs has many buffing skills on these 2 weapons

Golem Map (gef_fild08)
Kobolds (all type except Kobold Archer), Poison Spore, Chon Chon
Avoid golem (waste time if u wish to get golem cards go ahead)
Chain+ Andres/S.worker Cards (all) Hydra Cards (Kobold only)
Gladius[3] and Bucklear[1] looks nice…

Kobold Village (gef_fild120
Kobolds (all type)
Avoid Kobold Leader
Chain+ S.worker/Hydra Cards
More and more gladius[3] and bucklear[1]

Orc Dungeon
Orcs Zombie, Orcs Skeletone, Steal Chon Chon, Zenorc
Be careful of mobs
Fire Elements Weapons on undeads
Chain+Hydra(Zenorc only)/Orc Lady Card(orcs only)/S.Worker Card (all)

Minorous Map (moc_pryd05)



The, go back Morocc and lving at Minorous place. Here u may find a lot of bot here (in Mro ><”). Just ignore them even though they KS u. Just prepare a ice element weapon to wack those Minorous.

Next, heads to Comodo. Hit those Sea Otter in Cmd04. Just need to be aware of their Water Ball attack. Get armor with Dokebi card or Sword Fish Card. Also if possible a wind element weapons will come in handy.

Next will be High Orc, as many have known, use a ice weapons to defeat them.(No much to say here ><”)
Or try Gh Knight guild to hit those Rydrics. Just avoid Bloddy Knight and Abyss Knight there. Equip Right Epsilon and prepare a lot of White Potions there or even party a priest (seldom priest like to party up with Bs/Ws…><”)
The exp needed for 2advance jobs are about 3x exp for normal classes. So be patient and wishing u Good luck to get ur feet shining again. ^^

Where to put those job 70? (the skills are not in sequences, add which skills u think are more important and aid u in lving)
1. lv5 hammerfall
2. lv5 Adrenaline Rush
3. lv5 Weapon perfection
4. lv5 Over Thrust
5. lv1 Cart Boost
6. lv1 Hilt Binding
7. Lv 10 Research Weapon
8. lv1 Repair Weapon (use steel to repair damaged armors,iron ore for weapons)
9. Lv10 Meltdown (MUST HAVE!)
10.lv5 Skin Tempering
11.lv5 Max Overthrust
12. lv10 Cart Termination
*the others 7 jobs? well.. u decide…maybe to weapon refine??

6.PvP Whitesmith
Now whitesmith serves as the Weapon or Armor Damager. With the lv10 Meltdown u can make ur opponents hitting u bare-handed and damage their Marc Armors or even Ghostering Armors /gg. And well let ur party members to finish opponents off (Champion/Monk Ashura, Wizard/H.Wizards with their magic)

The best whitesmith in Pvp will be a vit type (this build is too hard for lving.), but a hybrid type is also good in Pvp.

Many ppl suggest to have agi>vit whitesmith to increase the attack speed so that the chance to damage opponents armors and weapons increase. (ASP high then hit enemy more frequent.)

Use that old method to defeat agi opponents like Sins & Hunters. That is hammer fall,memo,memo,memo. Or while ur opponent still get stunned, use meltdown and attack them with normal attack to damge his armors and weapon. Then slowly finish him off.

For opponents with high defend, damage their amors 1st then memo them till die. /gg
It is always great if u have weapons with status illness cards….
Like savage card, marina card, magnolia card and metaller card…..
Let them make the face =.=
And u finish off them by change to hydra cards weapons to kill them with cart terminations or meltdown + cart revolution

7. WOE Whitesmith
If u are a fan of Woe, get a Marine Sphere Card and u will be most helpful.

Abuse that Magnum Break skill and combine this with Meltdown skill. U not only can damage many opponents in the same time but also damage their armors and weapons as well. It will be very useful when other guilds already reach ur castle emperium and make them hit the emperium bared-handed. LOL.

Or use cart revolution as well…..with an status illness cards slotted into weapons + meltdown…… u will break their armors and give them annoying status illness /gg

(Things go up side down here... b4 this i say Agi>vit now vit>agi... )
So, now agi is not strongly suggested to whitesmith since need not to use normal attack in order to break the armor and weapon. (Donno if memo +meltdwon will have the effect or not …someone plz verify this) Get more vit to stay longer and get more hp. ^^”

This tactic also works in PvP when ur opponents Gb u….><”

Or….for faster lving agi> vit turns out great also…I try before disturbing some champions from casting ashura on me with 180 attackspeed with status illness weapons../heh

9.Credits
-Ro Blackparty Guide Book
-Ro Empire monster database
-My friends who refuse to show his name here (Thx~)
-Yralyn (for the place for lving… heh~ copy some from ur guide… sry ya hope u not mind)
-mark13 for suggesting me to pm Kairo (but I donno who…..><” thx anyway)


P/S: Thx for reading. Plz 4give me for my grammer. Plz leave any comments or suggestions (I will add into the guide later). I will try to answer ur queries. Plz also point out things I wrote wrongly. Thx~ =)
This guide will not include about the status... since i also not sure...

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Old 03-02-2005, 10:22 AM   #2
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Just a few things:

1. Do you get Crazy Uproar and Cart Revolution as soon as you become a Merchant? If no, when do you get them?

2. Why Blast Clip when you have Cart Revolution?

3. Cart Boost is implemented already, right?

4. I always thought STR/VIT was a better starting stat for novices and low level characters (less damage taken, more HP)... ah, it might be just me, since I tend to avoid tanking and such

Anyway, good guide needs a lot of work, but it's at a good start already.

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well i try answer these..^^

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1. Do you get Crazy Uproar and Cart Revolution as soon as you become a Merchant? If no, when do you get them?
Yea. Hmm...I thought i have said this in the lving place in payon cave when juz become H.merchant. But nvm~ Cart Revolution, Loud and Change Cart can be used juz after u talk to the guildman and change into H.merchant.
And during novice(4get to write this) u will get First Aid and Pretend Dead
after u finish talking to the Angel in Juno and u are "kicked" to Alberta,become a novice back. ^^"

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2. Why Blast Clip when you have Cart Revolution?
Well, this is a good question (will add into Q & A section later)
Cart Revolution is not quite good. Do u notice that u can only hit monsters
from the left and could not damage the monsters from the right at the same time using cart revolution?
umm...okok....Magnum Break can damage enemies within raidus of 3*3 cells around the traget.
So magnum break is useful when woe where u have to face many ppl Gb u
and if u face only one person,using cart revoltuion is ok either. ^^

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3. Cart Boost is implemented already, right?
Yup,it is. And can be used with Priests' Agility Up and Snippers' Wind Walk.
(this skill not adding agi like wind walk juz u walk a bit more faster. Good if u donwan to waste time walking to ur destination)

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4. I always thought STR/VIT was a better starting stat for novices and low level characters (less damage taken, more HP)... ah, it might be just me, since I tend to avoid tanking and such
Heh~ Adding vit is also good when starting. But i like better attack speed
and flee (cause many bots around need to hit the monsters faster to get more exp...><") Maybe someone wanna try getting full vit whitesmtih ?

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Anyway, good guide needs a lot of work, but it's at a good start already.
Thx~ ^^
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I don't usually do stickies-upon-request, but seeing the demand for a whitesmith guide AND the possibility of a very nice guide for Whitesmiths...

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. Why Blast Clip when you have Cart Revolution?



Well, this is a good question (will add into Q & A section later)
Cart Revolution is not quite good. Do u notice that u can only hit monsters
from the left and could not damage the monsters from the right at the same time using cart revolution?
umm...okok....Magnum Break can damage enemies within raidus of 3*3 cells around the traget.
So magnum break is useful when woe where u have to face many ppl Gb u
and if u face only one person,using cart revoltuion is ok either. ^^
i think i need to edit this...
umm to use cart revolution, we need to target on someone before damaging the target and the others nearby.....
but magnum break is different.....juz need to click on the skill
and no need to traget anyone.....and ppl around u will be hit...
with Meltdown, a Ws can easily damage his enemies weapons and armors
,meaning that they will not be able to harm him much and thier defence will be lower without the armor,making them more easy to kill..^^"
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cart revo
-attack with an ATK modifier of 150%+(weight of items in cart/80)% damage to 3x3 area around your target. Enemies hit by the attack are pushed west 2 tiles. "West" is towards the left-hand side of the mini-map. The appearance is just like Magnum Break. Cannot be used if a Cart is not equipped.This skill is currently unique in that it applies two elemental modifiers. The first will always be neutral vs target property. The second is weapon property vs target property. Basically its the same as magnum exept that MB is fire element.
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today i go guild war 1st time with my whitesmith
(since my rogue become H.thief now and nno choice to use whitesmith)

i felt not very easy die.....donno if my enemy is weak or juz
me good..../gg
i got the following eqps
+7 bone helm
welding mask
+7 whipser manteu (later change to immune manteu)
+7 carnival bucklear
+7 pupa chain mail (4get to take the +7 marc saint robe)
+7 green boots
+9 chain 3 hydras / +5 2 hand axe with metaller and magnoli card
1 mantis clip
1 magnum break clip

a wizard use Sg+ jupiter thunder on me i no die with some w.pots
and damaging the enemy weapon kinda easy
with meltdown+ cart revolution/magnum break

but magnum break easier to use since no need to target ppl
and got many guildmate Gb the enemy so hard for me to target them....

but cart revoltuion also nice when use +5 2 hand axe with metaller and
magnolia card.....make them silent+cursed+damaged weapon/armors

and we did win.....cause almost all the enemy weapon was being damaged
by me (except those killed by Azura monk/champion in my guild)
we juz lack of members (cause very lag) and fail to defend the castle
but at last we still get back.....^^"

and i juz found out that cart boost can be used in war~~
and can stack with wind walk and increase agi.......
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nice guide..i got question dear Tidus,Yralyn. /thx
i) Meltdown break all enemy armor? which will break 1st, weapon or armor?
ii) Is it Memonite can cast faster with higher aspd?
iii) What stat to add to have more success rate to break enemy armor?
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nice guide..i got question dear Tidus,Yralyn. /thx
i) Meltdown break all enemy armor? which will break 1st, weapon or armor?
ii) Is it Memonite can cast faster with higher aspd?
iii) What stat to add to have more success rate to break enemy armor?
thx~i try answer ur Qs...
1)Meltdown will damge ur enemy weapons and armors (not shield,helm,etc)
weapon will be damaged 1st according to the Ro guide book...see below

Skill Lv Weapon damage rate Eqps damge rate
1 100 70
2 200 140
3 300 210
4 400 280
5 500 350
6 600 420
7 700 490
8 800 560
9 900 630
10 1000 700

2)Yes. (plz anyone verify this)

3)Not sure. Some said dex affect (like rogue stripping skills....)
but even mRO GM donno dex affect it or not.....
since u need to hit ur enemy to break his armors...
so u need to hit him more frequently and no miss....so maybe agi and dex?
if u going to war....try use cart revolution or magnum break....
these 2 skills very useful... ^^
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Thanks you very much Tidus for ur guide. now i can make good white smith with ur guide. thx
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np~~ glad i can help~ but i also need some help~ heh~

my Ws at lv99 will have status as below.....
Str 91+29=120
Agi 72+20=92
Vit 64+6 =70
Dex 38+22=60
Luck 1+9=10 Attack Speed=181.2
with bless,increase agi,loud,andrelina rush,power thrust,weapon perfection,
maximize power,hilt binding and berserk pots

Eqps will be.....
+7 Bone helm
Welding Mask/ Alarm Mask
+7 Manteu (rydric card)
+7 Chain Mail (Pupa,PecoPeco when lving,Marc when war)
+7 Boots (matrl card)
+10 Axe (2 hydra 2 ske. worker)/+9 2hand axe(2 SS cards)(emperium breaker)
+7 Bucklear (thara frog card)
2 x Rings ( 2 mantis card)

how will this build be?
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ur agi looks wierd, care to explain why u want ur stats those way
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Old 04-01-2005, 02:42 AM   #13
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donno~~ hehe~~

donno why i put it tha way......

later i try fix it.....^^"
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umm...i fix it...but got some strange things....and create 3 builds...

S 90+30=120
A 69+20=89
V 69+6=75
I 2+16=18
D 38+22=60
L 1+8=9 max sp=598

Attack speed is 180
(wear evil wing instead o weldng mask)
(only left 2 points so add to int)


S 91+29=120
A 69+20=89
V 68+6=74 (not enough put to 75...)
I 1 +16=17
D 38+22=60
L 1+8=9 max sp=593

Attack speed is 180.0 also
(wear welding mask...no points left...not enough to put to vit 75,int 1 only)
(juz have extra 1 def....)

S 91+29=120
A 69+20=89
V 64+6=70
I 15+16=31
D 38+22=60
L 1+8=9 max sp =664

attack speed 180.0 also....wear welding mask....
got less vit...more int to get more sp to use those sp s***ing skills..

(sadly i donno the max hp my Ws will have...)
which one do u think better?
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Old 04-01-2005, 09:18 AM   #15
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umm...i fix it...but got some strange things....and create 3 builds...

S 90+30=120
A 69+20=89
V 69+6=75
I 2+16=18
D 38+22=60
L 1+8=9 max sp=598

Attack speed is 180
(wear evil wing instead o weldng mask)
(only left 2 points so add to int)


S 91+29=120
A 69+20=89
V 68+6=74 (not enough put to 75...)
I 1 +16=17
D 38+22=60
L 1+8=9 max sp=593

Attack speed is 180.0 also
(wear welding mask...no points left...not enough to put to vit 75,int 1 only)
(juz have extra 1 def....)

S 91+29=120
A 69+20=89
V 64+6=70
I 15+16=31
D 38+22=60
L 1+8=9 max sp =664

attack speed 180.0 also....wear welding mask....
got less vit...more int to get more sp to use those sp s***ing skills..

(sadly i donno the max hp my Ws will have...)
which one do u think better?
My opinion? Depends on purpose. If Whitesmiths can benefit more from the +5% maxHP (aside from other minor DEF bonuses), then build 1 is better. HOWEVER, considering that Whitesmiths would need more skills AND INT is always useful regardless... I'd rather stick with build #2.

I do suggest, however, that you lower INT to 14 (to make your INT divisible by 6... not even min/max mATK benefits from the excess 1 INT) and increase your LUK (1+8 LUK = +1 damage, 2+8 LUK = +2 damage; minor bonus, but you still have to count that in ).

You DID use a stat calc, didn't you? Any link?
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Old 04-01-2005, 05:04 PM   #16
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now i seldom play my whitesmith.....lving so slow...without priest
support.......T.T
then i play my H.priest and Stalker instead....
(healing undead and stealing things more fun~)
-anyway.....when high priest reach lv99 then i will play Ws back....
my Ws juz serve as my character to WOE only...
-and...with only int 1+?? lv77.......my max sp so low....use all those
battle skills my sp already 1/2 gone.....+ somemore 90 sp for meltdown....
when ppl come in i manage to use some memo,cart revolution....then
i need to normal attack ppl....since no sp.....><" and the sp recovery so....
SLOW.....T.T

i think will get the 3rd build with int 14+16 as Yralyn u suggested....
the calc. can be found here.....
www.ro-guardians.com/calc.
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try use some mdef armor like silk robe, saint robe, crystal pump, poo poo hat during woe. coz now falcon assult, spiral pierce, asura strike always give u full damage (ignore def).
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how does meltdown work actually?after casting meltdown i can break enemy weapon/armor for a period of time using normal atk ?
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how does meltdown work actually?after casting meltdown i can break enemy weapon/armor for a period of time using normal atk ?
meltdown works like power thrust.....
after u cast power thrust, the skill increases the attack power....
after sometime, it will be gone...

meltdown also like that...
when the meltdown still last..u have the chance to damage enemy's
armors and weapons.... u may need to hit many times b4 the weapon
may be destroyed

and yes...using normal attack or skills like cart revolution, magnum break,
(memo not try b4....i will test later) u may damage ur enemy weapon and armor
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oh ok thx then its pretty good
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thx...umm if possible...anyone can test memo with meltdown??
i wanna to try but the ppl in pvp romm not very friendly.....><"


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hi tidus
my com was spiled so i couldnt play my bs
now its back and im still trying to train for 99, at the same time find the best build for ws....well at lvl 99 i will marry first before changing that is^^ a 99 priest or h.priest to be particular. anyway how u get that charcter thingy tochange the clothes?
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my friend's friend's friend is a Private Server GM....><"

he sent to my friend's friend
my friend's friend sent to my friend
then my friend sent to me.....

anyway....it is very risky.....
maybe will spoilt ur real RO....
(need to intsall back RO after use the data)

so....wait for the real RO patch lor.....i already deleted the data....
make my RO so laggy........><"
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man i hate the ro-guardian calculator

i still couldnt decide on any stat build cuz it doesnt show the hp!!!
ok i really will need the most versatile mvp build so i wont get desperate when i fight mvps, but at the same time kill really fast
but i need to noe how much hp i will need, cuz i figured out im not really comfortable with my 98 bs which onli has 50 vit and 8k hp, i cant even solo a bloody knight without running out of whites and i have to spam it like a water cycle infinitely so i wont die!! help anyone? i really want a very good mvp build for WS and i dun really care about WOE and PVP just MVP and a PVM
so i will be like while training...walking....then see an mvp like bafo and not freak out like some crap!!!! help anyone, i really want my ws-to-be to be a very good one! thx in advance ya?
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geez....a big problems also.....
u want kill MVP fast and also can survive when damaging it....
it would be hard.....

if ur BS is a rich guy and u not care on the money used and pots.....
then having a hybrid build will be good for u....
umm like my future Ws agi 89 vit 70.....ASP 180.0 with increase agi and berserk pots....
and b4 going MVP...buy many seeds of yrdrassil or even berries.....
w.pots may not be very enough...
and getting +8/9/10 eqps also may help.......
(see a lord knight solo barphomet, it damage him less than 100....cause he
got full set +10 armors....... )

about the max hp....
try use 2nd class calculator that provides max hp....
then +30% (the guide book said 2nd advance class with have a bonus
of 30% of sp and hp....)
http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~magnusrk/calc/
(only if the guide boook no give wrong info.....><")
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