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Old 06-19-2004, 10:56 PM   #1
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What class can do the highest melee damage in 1 shot??
skills are not counted....
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Old 06-19-2004, 11:04 PM   #2
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That's a really poor question. It depends firstly what you are fighting. Secondly, it depends on their DEF. What about AGI builds? I mean cmon, knowing who can do the most damage in 1 hit means nothing. An AGI build can hit 2-4 times as fast as some other builds. Just because a CRIT sin does say 400 damage per hit, doesn't mean they suck. Include their offhand hit for 500, then multiply by 3-4, which is 2-2.5k damage, without reductions.

Highest melee damage is probably from 200 weapon ATK and 99 STR and high DEX/LUK. The class that gets high ATK weapons I believe is either crus or knight, but priests get mace mastery and that insane godly mace may be out. Who knows?

EDIT: Yeah, and then you have to add in cards and equipment for each class.
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Old 06-19-2004, 11:10 PM   #3
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STR/AGI BS:

2 Thor's Belt
1 Mjolnir
and other STR Equips

Beat Thi^s guy in melee damage.
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Old 06-19-2004, 11:22 PM   #4
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I actually kinda forgot that BS gets mace masteries. Anyway, I did find the question kind of poor. I do agree that BS gets the most damage discluding skills. And basing a character off of those equips is the dumbest thing anybody could do.

Also, my damage calculations for sins was of, it shouldove been 400+80 cuz it's 20% not 25%. A more reliable estimate of sin damage is about 360, though. meaning 360+72=432.
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Old 06-19-2004, 11:31 PM   #5
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You should look at damage per minute or something rather than per hit and i'd give that title to an agi/dex hunter.
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Old 06-19-2004, 11:39 PM   #6
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Its melee damage Japhy
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Old 06-20-2004, 12:12 AM   #7
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Melee= 1on1 one cell distance.

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I actually kinda forgot that BS gets mace masteries.

Hmmm I dun know 'bout that? What I DO know is that they have Powa Max, Weapon Perfection, Adrenaline Rush, Crazy Uproar, and Powa Thrust.

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And basing a character off of those equips is the dumbest thing anybody could do.
Dun care if the BS only has a few decent equips, go to the BS forums "BS emphasizes on the MAX melee damage ANY character can ever throw up".

An AGI Battlesmith can do massive amounts of damage especially with those skills above. If you care about using Off. Skill(Which better in General than a simple melee damage), Mammo and Cart Revo can dish out one helluva big damage.

Oh and the Quote about "Basing a character off equips is the dumbest thing anybody could do":

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Highest melee damage is probably from 200 weapon ATK and 99 STR and high DEX/LUK. The class that gets high ATK weapons I believe is either crus or knight,
As you can see, you're the first one that based the melee damage being asked on "Weapons", which is a part of the equipments mind you(A BIG PART).

NOTE: and fer cryin' out loud, the person's just asking about "1 SHOT" don't be so uptight about things, he's just wondering what could deal the most amount of melee damage in just "ONE SHOT", and not to base it on ATK Spd and ask "What Class does the highest melee damage in a given amount of time?".

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Old 06-20-2004, 12:14 AM   #8
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Sorry, I just assumed if you were that bothered about the highest damage you could put up with range.

Oh well then I change my vote to Dagger Sins with the right equips
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I second that Japhy. But it all depends on what monster your fighting. Against something like a turtle, it has to be a natural crit sin.
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Old 06-20-2004, 12:51 AM   #10
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Strongest melee hit?
I'd say Knights.
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Old 06-20-2004, 04:14 AM   #11
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Strongest melee hit?
I'd say Knights.
O.o....how?


and i'd go 4 sin's 2(dagger sin's)
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Cos Knights have pretty high damage?

And also I don't think double attack from dagger sins count, cos that would still be counted as a skill... I know its passive, still...
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Then sword mastery dont count as well???I think not!
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Old 06-20-2004, 04:57 AM   #14
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Cos Knights have pretty high damage?

And also I don't think double attack from dagger sins count, cos that would still be counted as a skill... I know its passive, still...
knights can do much damage in one shot O.o they can only do 500+ max
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Nope xD lol

Anyways, Battle Wizzies deal the most melee damage with a Mighty Staff...
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Old 06-20-2004, 05:18 AM   #16
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Battle priests do even more, saw a priest hitting an Isis for 1k(uses Lex Aeterna, but its not an offensive skill, so I think it'll count)
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Old 06-20-2004, 05:38 AM   #17
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i would say a bs with mjolni equip...
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i would say a bs with mjolni equip...
Yes, but highwind's complaining that you shouldn't base it off such godly euips(Look in Post2).
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Yes, unless your a GM then basing your build off of the offchance that somehow you'll get three "godly" items is a bad idea if you ask me. I'm sorry I was away this morning. Also I was gonna get pissed cuz I read the part that you said this...
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Oh and the Quote about "Basing a character off equips is the dumbest thing anybody could do":
I said godly equips, not EQUIPS. Damn people. Twist the words why don't you. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with any build. The guy said NO SKILLS. So what's this crap about adrenaline rush etc?

I really get tired of people quoting me like that and not understanding it.

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What class can do the highest melee damage in 1 shot??
skills are not counted....
No skills allowed, only melee. If the only rephrased e question... Sorry that nobody likes my rule of no godly equipment, but try to at least put it in two categories then.

Godly equipment: Battlesmith
Equipment you can ACTUALLY GET: Knight/Crus

Anybody agree?... sorry about the attitude, I'm just cranky and I've flamed and been flamed at a little too much today.
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Old 06-20-2004, 08:56 AM   #20
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If skills aren't allowed then knights aren't allowed 2h mastery etc? Because if you're counting a passive skill like that, a thiefs double strike should be included thus making dagger sin the most powerful melee char in terms of damage dealt.
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You forgot the fact that it's 1 hit Japhy.
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With all skills on(meaning its own skills, no buffs from other players). And dmg in a certain amount of time... would be (I would say) Pure Agi Blacksmith(if u can think of lex aterna... you can think of mammonite) Even on those dumb little turtles with Mammo would probably Blacksmith Mammoing full way.

Lets say there was a turtle... And a AGI Blacksmith was to Mammo it.. it would do around 1.5k damage each lvl 10 Mammo.(Just pretend it has 99 str 99 agi 99 dex)

Lets say there was a turtle... And a Crit Sin was to Crit it to death... it would do around 600 dmg each crit... (99 str 99 agi 99 luk)

What you think is better...

If Blacksmiths were using Mammo, and Crit sins using sonic boom... Sonic boom will do more dmg per use... but... Mammos are waayy faster, and sonic boom isnt... Sonic boom with the stats as the sin above, would do around 2k dmg each sonic boom. but since they're like 2 or 3 times slower than Mammo... yeah...

If skills aren't allowed:

With all str gear and 99 str 99 agi 99 luk(Crit Sin)
+10 Fire katar on a Soldier. around 175 regular hit and 750dmg each crit.

With all str gear and 99 str 99 agi 99 dex(Agi BattleSmith[no crazy uproar])
+10 Fire 2 handed axe(no "vvs or vs") on a Soldier. around 250 regular hit and 835 crit.

... Blacksmith still owns.

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but mammo costs 1k.

double-strike isn't two hits, it's a double attack on one hit.
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but mammo costs 1k.

double-strike isn't two hits, it's a double attack on one hit.
No one said the characters had no money on them...
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yeah someone already said it, but just to reiterate, double attack is an active skill. masteries are not. any quicken or BS passive buff is a skill; and lets just not count lex. anyone can be lexed, it really doesn't make much of a difference: (my sin does 500! my lexed knight does 600, I'm better than you!)

1 hit is pretty easy, daggersin with a triple +20% glad, aspersio, strouf and santa poring and size mod mg on some random lexed/Signum Cruscius'd undead. or something.
But I think we should change the question a little, like "what melee character can pull of the highest damage per minute stat without any buffs or aspd pots etc?"
to which I'd saw agi BS with 120 str and a double 20% race double 20% element +10 battleaxe.
with a double insecticide double saharic battleaxe he gets about 30k a minute on an ambernite... best i can do on short notice xP
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